Radical Top-10 By-Position Cheat Sheet

A couple weeks ago, I posted my Irreverent 150 (which I'll update this week), and while I wouldn't necessarily advocate everyone drafting based on my hunches, it was at least how I would draft in a standard non-PPR league. I'm going to take the concept a step further here, and post the "Radical Top-10" lists here. It's not necessarily how I would draft, but how I'd almost like to draft if hunches were my sole consideration.


  1. Tom Brady
  2. Drew Brees
  3. Aaron Rodgers
  4. Peyton Manning
  5. Jay Cutler
  6. Tony Romo
  7. Matt Schaub
  8. Philip Rivers
  9. Matthew Stafford
  10. Kevin Kolb


  1. Michael Turner
  2. Adrian Peterson
  3. Chris Johnson
  4. Ryan Mathews
  5. Ray Rice
  6. Maurice Jones-Drew
  7. Rashard Mendenhall
  8. Jamaal Charles
  9. Matt Forte
  10. DeAngelo Williams


  1. Randy Moss
  2. Calvin Johnson
  3. Andre Johnson
  4. Larry Fitzgerald (small omission there) - I didn't mean to be that radical (though some might)
  5. Brandon Marshall
  6. Miles Austin
  7. Greg Jennings
  8. Steve Smith (CAR)
  9. Roddy White
  10. Reggie Wayne
  11. Robert Meachem


By: tumanic
On: 8/30/2010 1:04:00 PM
We all know you want Ryan Mathews at #1.....don't be shy now! Cutler at #5???? There must be to much Freon in the L.A. smog....
By: schoenke
On: 8/30/2010 2:34:00 PM
How far does MJD slip with his mystery knee ailment?
By: ackbar1138
On: 8/30/2010 3:14:00 PM
Gore doesnt even make your top 10, but FOrte does? Interesting.
By: Chris Liss
On: 8/30/2010 3:33:00 PM
I put MJD at No. 6 for now. Keep in mind, I would make a concession to the market were I actually drafting - no need to draft Forte until Rd 3 or 4.
By: Tenac
On: 8/30/2010 5:20:00 PM
What's your over/under on receptions by Meachem? Got some ballpark stats in mind?
By: Chris Liss
On: 8/30/2010 6:32:00 PM
I think the O/U is about 60-65. But if he gets to 75 (of which there's a 30 percent chance) look out. It could be 16 yards per catch which is 1200 yds and 10-plus TD.
By: jzudycki
On: 8/30/2010 9:34:00 PM
No love for the TE's? Was curious to see if you have the same type of man crush on Jermichael Finley as I do.
By: Chris Liss
On: 8/31/2010 12:40:00 AM
I started to post my TE list, but it was pretty vanilla. I have Finley at No. 4. Sure he's a great athlete, etc, etc, but Dallas Clark has Peyton Manning and is the most polished guy at the position, Gates is a monster every year with a great QB, and Vernon Davis is even faster and more athletic and caught 13 TD last year. I'd be happy with any of the four.
By: jzudycki
On: 8/31/2010 8:48:00 AM
I figured thats why you left them off. TE is such a deep position this year, hard to come up with anything "radical" for it.

Would the season start already?
By: Bats
On: 8/31/2010 9:06:00 AM
Steve Smith and Brandon Marshall. First, why do you think Marshall will end up the #4 WR over Roddy White, Reggie Wayne and Miles Austin? I'm in limbo over where to put him in my top 10 WRs. And second, what type of numbers can Steve Smith put up this year? Can he really be a top 7 WR? Is there that much of a difference between Matt Moore throwing him the ball as opposed to Delhomme? I know Smith did great in games with Moore last year, but that was a bit small of a sample size. Thanks.
By: Chris Liss
On: 8/31/2010 9:49:00 AM
Steve Smith has always been a monster whenever he had a serviceable QB. At one point that was Delhomme (when healthy) and last year it was Moore as Delhomme was not remotely serviceable. A healthy Smith could vie for the receiving yards crown and add 8-9 TD. Marshall is huge and fast, and the Dolphins just made him the highest paid receiver in NFL history. They're going to get him the ball a ton.
By: Bats
On: 8/31/2010 10:50:00 AM
Great points Chris, thanks. Also, why Michael Turner #1? I know he had a great season 2 years ago, and at times he was great last year, but I'm definitely superstitious when it comes to sports and I just can't stop thinking that he's gonna be a bust again this year due to the "Curse of 370". I think AP should be #1 due to potential, youth and great offense. He's just hitting his prime, and I think the Vikes will switch to a slightly more run-based offense due to loss of receiving talent (Rice out 10 weeks) and that opposing teams will be gearing their defenses to stop Favre and the pass (leaving AP to benefit). I like MJD and Ray Rice at #2 and #3, and think they are interchangable. Again, being superstitious, I don't like Chris Johnson to come anywhere close to last year. I'm not even sure he'll be Top-5. I'm also weary of Drew Brees because of the Madden cover. I know, it sounds crazy, but there's just too much history to support it. Thanks for the feed back! I have the #4 pick in my upcoming draft, so Turner definietly concerns me.
By: Chris Liss
On: 8/31/2010 11:19:00 AM
I don't care about 370 - that was just some backfitting of the data by Football Outsiders to make a point. Take any starting back in the league, and ask whether he's likely to do as well as the typically 370-carry back. Very unlikely no matter how many carries he had the year before. So repeating a 370-carry season is always unlikely. Turner despite claiming to be out of shape was on another 17-TD pace last year just like in 2008. And he has less mileage than AP despite being older. He's also more compact, and the Falcons love to run on the goal line as opposed to the Vikes who throw often. But again, I might even take AP first - this list is more for the sake of argument - exploring possibilities that everyone's standard consensus top-10 overlooks.

By: Bats
On: 8/31/2010 11:35:00 AM
Yeah, I hear you. I was just bouncing some ideas off of you to see what you thought. I think I'm just looking for someone to convince me not to take Turner at the 4 pick. Just a month ago I said that I would never take Michael Turner over MJD or Ray Rice, but as the preseason has rolled along, he has just been eating at me. Its driving me crazy now that I am up in the air over whether to pick MJD, Turner or Rice (depending on who is available). You didn't help much in convincing me not take Turner, lol.
By: matthewthill7
On: 8/31/2010 11:41:00 PM
Really like the Brady pick. The NFL is the most reactionary of all sports, and I refuse to end up chasing last year's numbers with Rodgers or Brees. Brady is one (healthy) season removed from 50 TD, and while nobody in their right mind would predict that again, we know that a high ceiling it is within the realm of possibilities for this system and personnel (and the receiving group is rumored to be very strong in 2010). Belichick wants to embarrass people.

Also really love the Turner pick. How many guys can we say will get 300+ carries in a protected environment, plus goal-line work and the potential for maybe 20 receptions? I'm planning on picking him over everybody other than Peterson and Chris Johnson (who, interestingly, has one of the highest "stuff" rates of all starting NFL rushers.)

A lot was said about Randy Moss slowing down last year, but his YPC (15.4) was exactly in line with his career averages. Sure, Andre Johnson may get more yards, but the Patriots know exactly how to use Moss in the red zone. I'll take a few less yards in exchange for another dozen red-zone looks.

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