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NHL Trade Deadline Eve - Goalie Carousel

I'm not as piped into the trade deadline sources as others, so there was no small amount of shock to see Roberto Luongo get dealt Tuesday for me. What was the point of trading Cory Schneider if they were going to also shed Luongo? Canucks fans, or anyone else, help me figure this out.

Also, interesting to see the other goalie movement today, along with the Ryan Miller trade from last week. A lot more goalies moving around this year than last.

Comments

By: geo3993
On: 3/4/2014 3:54:00 PM
Apparently Luongo was ticked off at not playing in the Heritage Classic and like a few other Canucks is not a fan of Tortorella. Rumors are the goaltending coach, Roland Melancon, wasn't all that thrilled with some of his practice habits either. Perhaps he wanted out. What has happened to Vancouver as a whole? This was one of the better teams in the NHL last season. They have imploded.
 
By: airjan23
On: 3/4/2014 4:13:00 PM
Also, Lack has outplayed him this year. Luongo likely should have been moved a few years but Vancouver was unwilling to actually pull the trigger despite all the rumors. Schneider begat a good play in Bo Horvat, and I wouldn;t be shocked to see Kelser and Edler go. Those matching four-year, $28 million extensions bestowed upon the Sedin twins look like red herrings now.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/4/2014 4:36:00 PM
There is a lot of chatter about the dominoes which may fall in the wake of the Luongo deal. Ryan Kesler is another veteran Canuck who is being hotly pursued. He's also another big ticket, as he carries a $5M cap hit for the next two seasons. He has managed to stay healthy this season but his style of play has come with a heavy physical toll. The Canucks may move him for some younger pieces to accelerate a retooling process.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/4/2014 4:41:00 PM
With Paul Martin and Kris Letang expected to miss the rest of the regular season and possibly longer, the Pens will be in the market for a puck-moving defenseman. The same could be said of their main Eastern Conference rivals, the Bruins, who expect to be without Dennis Seidenberg and Adam McQuaid for the forseeable future. Smart rival GMs will be playing the Bruins and Pens off against each other for their tradeable parts.
 
By: Erickson
On: 3/4/2014 5:01:00 PM
Just like last year's Iginla deal!
 
By: dwaldner
On: 3/4/2014 6:12:00 PM
I think there were a number of elements to this: 1) Tortorella is toxic and is alienating the core of the team - that's why you're seeing Kesler and Luongo likely leaving 2) Luongo flat out insulted the management a week ago when he mused about Kesler that "we all know what's going to happen - he'll still be here" - I think Gillis took that as a slap in the face 3) Luongo didn't believe in the team anymore 4) Someone wanted him, and 5) Gillis' price came down to the point where he got virtually nothing. Gillis should have been fired after the mismanagement of Schneider - now his coach has ruined the team and he's gotten almost nothing for the strongest goalie tandem in the league two seasons ago. How he has a job still shows Vancouver ownership really isn't minding the ship well.
 
By: jchen16
On: 3/4/2014 9:51:00 PM
Just one thing on Tortorella - we don't know how much he knew about Gillis' trades. Yes, there was a rift between Torts and Kesler because he took away his 'A'. But Kesler's unhappiness started before that, when Vigneault used to call him out for not using his teammates enough. Torts felt stripping his 'A' would be a good motivator. That, of course, backfired. For the most part, a lot of the players like playing for Tortorella, but it's been a challenging season overall. A lot of people in Vancouver really like Torts' honesty compared to the smug and aloof Vigneault.

From a lot of media reports, Torts didn't know a Luongo trade was in the works. He started Lack on Sunday genuinely thinking that he was doing what was best for the team. It's believed that even after trading Schneider, Luongo and his agent would've approached Gillis for a trade this summer. His unhappiness over not starting the Heritage Classic was the last straw. Luongo asked to leave, Gillis was put in a tough bind, Florida presented an easy solution and the Canucks took it.

Mike Gillis had two bona fide goalies and totally botched it.
 
By: dwaldner
On: 3/5/2014 7:23:00 AM
Jason, I cannot believe Tortorella was left in the dark about these things. NHL coaches know all about egos and what happens when you mess with them. Torts sitting Luongo wasn't a hockey move - I think it was a move by Gillis and Torts to elicit this trade. Luongo's no movement clause meant he wasn't going anywhere unless he wanted to leave. Publically shaming him by not playing him in a highlight game in the Heritage Classic is a surefire way go get him to accept a trade. I think Torts runs the show there, not Gillis. Torts said Luongo had to go, made the necessary situation where Luongo wanted to go, and left Gillis holding the bag with an epically bad trade.

If I were GM of the Canucks right now, I would fire Tortorella and hire Dineen as an interim replacement. If the team doesn't show a noticeable improvement in Torts' departure, dismantle them at the trade deadline. Sedins to Detroit, Kesler to Pittsburgh, Edler to New York, Bieksa to Toronto, and rebuild for the future.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 7:36:00 AM
Montreal is rumored to be shopping Lars Eller today. He is a skilled forward, but does not play well when the game gets physical. The Habs are hoping to improve their team size. Ryan Kesler could be the ideal player to join this squad.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 7:40:00 AM
Mike Cammalleri is in play as his $6 M cap hit expires this summer. The Flames are in rebuilding mode, so I would expect some combination of draft picks and prospects in exchange for this proven scorer who has a history of rising to the occasion when the playoffs roll around.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 7:44:00 AM
Martin St Louis was really hurt when he was left off of Team Canada's Olympic roster. It's no secret that he blames that on Lightning GM Steve Yzerman, who is also the Tampa GM. Even though he filled in for Stamkos at the Games, the public relations damage has been done. Apparently, the New York Rangers are interested, so we should keep an eye out for this and expect it to be a hockey trade, involving roster players, not prospects, coming from the Rangers.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 7:49:00 AM
Martin Brodeur has given the Devils permission to move him today. The backup role in Pittsburgh makes a lot of sense, particularly when we recall how Marc Andre Fleury has imploded in each of the last two playoffs. Bringing in a certain future Hall of Famer would be a great insurance policy. This sure looks like Marty's swan song and he would love to add another Stanley Cup ring before retiring.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 7:53:00 AM
Steven Stamkos has been given the green light to rejoin the active roster in Tampa. That addition will trump any player movement that happens the rest of this day. You have to give the Lightning all the credit on the world for hanging on to a top playoff spot throughout his long absence. They are in a real dogfight with the Canadiens and Maple Leafs for the coveted second place (guaranteeing home ice in the first round) spot in the Atlantic division.
 
By: jchen16
On: 3/5/2014 8:20:00 AM
@dwaldner let's be honest, neither Gillis nor Torts seem to call the shots. Aquilini does. Penguins camp feel like Kesler deal will never get done even if they included Derrick Pouliot (Canucks' original asking price) because they don't feel confident Gillis is authorized to make a move. Maybe that's true, maybe that's not, because there are conflicting reports within the Vancouver and Pittsburgh media.

Canucks' troubles extend well before Tortorella, which in my mind, makes him less culpable. As to how much Torts knows... that's pure speculation. It's why I'm cautioning against it. Someone on Twitter mentioned that Torts should be upfront about how much he knew about a potential deal in the works. I agree, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would air out his differences with the GM in public. It was no secret him and Sather disagreed on certain things, but he never called Sather out.

If the Canucks did sit Luongo specifically to expedite the trade, it's Gillis who should be on the chopping block, not Tortorella. He coaxed a winning record out of a team without any real star players (sorry declining Sedins) or depth. The Canucks are not a good hockey club. They might've been heading into the season, but once the players hit the ice it became apparent this team wasn't good enough.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 8:25:00 AM
Martin St Louis is being traded to the Rangers in exchange, Tampa receives Ryan Callahan, a first round pick (2015) and a second round pick (2014), pending a trade call.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 8:28:00 AM
Marian Gaborik is apparently on he verge of being moved by Columbus. The L A Kings are in hot pursuit here because Gaborik, a gamebreaker, albeit widely viewed as a one-way player, is exactly what they need. Consistent goal-scoring is the King's biggest weakness.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 9:20:00 AM
We are hearing plenty of rumors surrounding names like Tomas Vanek, Matt Moulson, Ales Hemsky and Chris Stewart. Each of these players could be a top-six forward, depending on where they land.

 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 9:23:00 AM
Ottawa's Chris Phillips was apparently in the sights of the Bruins for the last week, but at the same time, Phillip's camp was at the same time interested in looking at a new contract with Ottawa. Well, the Sens announced a two-year extension at $2.5 M per season today. Expect this to signal that Phillips will end his career in Ottawa.
 
By: Paul Bruno
On: 3/5/2014 9:54:00 AM
Ales Hemsky moves from the Oilers to the Senators for a paid of mid-range draft picks. he scored only nine goals (20 points) last year and has slumped to nine goals and 26 points in 55 games this season. Still the Sens need offensive depth and will use the rest of this schedule to evaluate this pending UFA, even though their playoff hopes are dim, at best.
 

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