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By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 3:41:00 PM
I have no idea who's going No. 1. That rarely happens in NBA drafts.
 
By: edkensik
On: 6/27/2013 3:51:00 PM
The mystery of who will go number one just shows how poor the NBA draft and that the teams with the top picks would rather move out of their slots.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 4:06:00 PM
In five years, I don't think this draft will look as poor as advertised. The main reason people are hating is because there isn't that top-tier talent we usually see.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:09:00 PM
In five years, no one from this draft will have made a major impact in the NBA. No top-tier talent and the best players all have major question marks. One or two may work out, but most will not.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:16:00 PM
Finally, I can join in this conversation I am supposed to be leading and actually, you know, say stuff.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 4:17:00 PM
"Most will not" is usually the case.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:17:00 PM
Just so that it is known, my laptop fan burnt out, I am on a computer that usually can't go more than three hours without shutting down. So, if I happen to disappear, just know that I love you all. Also, avenge me!
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:17:00 PM
My guess is that the Cavs go with Noel.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:19:00 PM
Most top five picks, especially in the one-and-done era, have been at least productive. If one of the top five in this draft is a productive player, then I will gladly be wrong.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:20:00 PM
I am intrigued by this draft class. Sure, the main narrative about this draft is that there is no big name, no unibrowed defensive stopper to get enthused about, but the secondary narrative is how it is a fairly deep class, which I agree with, and which I find more interesting. Also, I agree with Perry that I think Noel goes first overall, and I think that is a reasonable pick.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:22:00 PM
There is a flat-topped defensive stopper.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:24:00 PM
Teams don't usually go into the draft looking for rotation pieces. If they are satisfied with bench pieces in the draft, then I think they will be satisfied. I just don't think there are any all-star/all-NBA type players among this crew.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:28:00 PM
Hey, Shane Battier ate at a terrible restaurant! This is worth talking about!
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:29:00 PM
Shane Battier was a top-five pick.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 4:29:00 PM
sixth, right?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:31:00 PM
I think he went third. Dunleavt Jr. was second.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:33:00 PM
You are right. I got my Dukies confused. Jay Williams went second with Dunleavy third.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 4:33:00 PM
He went sixth. Agree that most players will just be solid pieces from this draft, but I think a couple will make at least one ASG. No perennial All-Star types, though
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:42:00 PM
The (mercifully) retiring David Stern announces that, with the first pick in the 2013 NBA Draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers select Anthony Bennett out of UNLV. Mild upset there.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:42:00 PM
I was kind of hoping Bennett would fall to the Pistons. I guess not.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:43:00 PM
Bennett apparently gained some weight and had a shoulder injury, but he fits a need for the Cavs, and he has a high ceiling. Perhaps the highest ceiling of anybody in this draft. Except perhaps that Greek kid whose name I will never learn to spell.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 4:43:00 PM
Shocker at No. 1. Probably wouldn't have been too weird if Bennett didn't suffer that injury a couple months ago.
 
By: Erik Siegrist
On: 6/27/2013 4:46:00 PM
Wow, Canadian kids going number one two years in a row... amazing.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:48:00 PM
If Bennett can accept a role, I think he'll be really good. He'll need to defer to Kyrie, but he has a lot of skills.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:48:00 PM
With the second pick, the Orlando Magic select Victor Oladipo out of Indiana. He'll provide some strong defensive prowess. Nerlens Noel falls to, at least, the third pick, and I doubt Washington takes him.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:48:00 PM
I'm thinking Noel ends up going fifth to the Suns now.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:50:00 PM
Shouldn't the Wizards consider Noel?
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:53:00 PM
With the third pick, the Washington Wizards take Otto Porter out of Georgetown, as most people suspected. He won't have to travel far. He was considered the "safest" pick of this draft, and helps a Wizards team hoping to win now.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 4:56:00 PM
These hats look bad. Shane Battier is a tedious interviewer. I ponder how a world where Bill Simmons' career is ascending could ever be considered just. Other than that, this is a fine television event.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:56:00 PM
The Suns' training staff works with Noel?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:58:00 PM
Chris, it's a tough interview. It's a no-win situation.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 4:58:00 PM
I miss Tom Tolbert.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:00:00 PM
With the fourth pick, the Charlotte Bobcats select Cody Zeller from Indiana. Another surprise. The analytics like him. His athleticism is good. I don't think this is a bad pick.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:00:00 PM
I am now starting to get intrigued about which player may end up falling to the Pistons this year.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:02:00 PM
I was hoping for a Noel-Bismack Biyombo frontcourt.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:08:00 PM
With the fifth pick, the Phoenix Suns select Alex Len out of Maryland. Even the Suns don't want Noel. They got themselves a different center. Noel and Anthony Davis together on the Pelicans?
 
By: Erik Siegrist
On: 6/27/2013 5:09:00 PM
Have to think the medical report on Noel is even worse than people expected.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:09:00 PM
I don't think Noel makes sense for the Pelicans (Trey Burke)... maybe the Kings?
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:10:00 PM
This has to be one of the weirsest first five picks on record. Have to think Kings hope McLemore slips one more pick.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:11:00 PM
Bill Simmons is the most hyperbolic analyst of all time.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:12:00 PM
With the sixth pick, the New Orleans Pelicans (come on, Pelicans!) select Nerlens Noel out of Kentucky. His slide stops. The combo of Davis and Noel is going to dominate on defense.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:13:00 PM
Also, the Pistons will either get Ben McLemore or their choice of point guards.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:14:00 PM
The important thing is that David Stern isn't making this whole thing about himself.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:18:00 PM
Aw yeah! Trey Burke staying home, baby!
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:18:00 PM
With the seventh pick, the Sacramento Kings select Ben McLemore out of Kansas. He sort of fell into their laps. There are concerns about his passivity, and that may be an issue with DeMarcus Cousins around, but this works out well for the new ownership group in not-Seattle.
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:19:00 PM
Chris - where does Robin Lopez get dealt to with Davis and Noel in New Orleans?

Wonder with McLemore in Sac, if Tyreke is dealt.
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:22:00 PM
Per Adrian Woj: Noel to 76ers
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:22:00 PM
Robin Lopez is the only Pelican with the bulk to guard the post. When Noel comes back, he can be energy defender off the bench.

Tyreke is a restricted free agent.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:23:00 PM
Great deal for the Pelicans!
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:24:00 PM
Nerlens Noel is being traded to the Sixers. So, instead of Davis and Noel, the Sixers will replace Andrew Bynum with Noel, I guess. Good thing Noel isn't coming off an injury like Bynum.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:24:00 PM
Jrue Holiday to the New Orleans for Noel?
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:26:00 PM
Jrue for Noel and a 2014 first rounder, wow
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:28:00 PM
As a Louisiana resident, I may have to ditch my allegiance to the Bucks and go with the high-flying Pelicans.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:28:00 PM
With the eighth pick, the Detroit Pistons select Kenatvious Caldwell-Pope out of Georgia. A shooting guard instead of a point guard. I guess Brandon Knight is still their point guard (or will be a combo guard sixth man). I am torn on KCP. Kevin Pelton's analytics loved him. Brandon Doolittle's hated him. The Pistons do need a shooter though. Also, my web browser crashed 10 times while I tried to write this.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:29:00 PM
Holiday and a 2014 first rounder for Noel is a great deal for New Orleans if true. I also wonder if the Pistons will trade KCP to Minnesota, since they loved him so much. Maybe they are holding him hostage from the Wolves. Not that Detroit can't use him.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:29:00 PM
Why would the 76ers want to trade Holiday? He was pretty good last year. Contract issues?
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:31:00 PM
With the ninth pick, the Minnesota Timberwolves select Trey Burke from Michigan. I smell a trade between Minnesota and Detroit. I know it seems odd, but it makes some sense. I expect Burke to be traded in some fashion.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:32:00 PM
The Pistons could also bring back Calderon.
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:32:00 PM
Chris, makes sense as Minny has Rubio, but what could Detroit deal them?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:36:00 PM
Jalen just pooped on Deron Williams.
 
By: Shannon McKeown
On: 6/27/2013 5:36:00 PM
Rubio is tall (for a PG) and can guard twos, just something to keep in mind.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:37:00 PM
With the 10th pick, the Portland Trail Blazers select C.J. McCollum from Lehigh. He's sort of a combo guard. He can probably play shooting guard alongside Damian Lillard, and take over the point when Lillard is on the bench. This move makes sense to some degree.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:38:00 PM
Well, it seems that Burke is going to Utah, but he could have been dealt to Detroit for Caldwell-Pope and a first round pick some point down the road. That seems irrelevant at this point, however.
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:38:00 PM
Per Woj, rumor is Burke to Portland, wonder if it's for McCollum? If so, great move by Minny but why would Portland wants Burke, unless to flip him elsewhere?
 
By: airjan23
On: 6/27/2013 5:39:00 PM
Never mind, just saw update to Utah, nice move for them. Love Lilliard- McCollum combo
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:45:00 PM
With the 11th pick, the Philadelphia 76ers select Michael Carter-Williams from Syracuse, presumably for the Pelicans. However, since they added Jrue Holiday if this trade goes down, that kind of odd. What of Grievous Vasquez? Or have I got the trade facts screwed up?
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:46:00 PM
Trading Burke for the 14th and 21st pick in this draft is a good move for Minnesota. It's good for Utah as well, as they needed a point guard. I expect the T-Wolves to take at least one shooter.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:51:00 PM
With the 12th pick, the Oklahoma City Thunder select Steven Adams from Pittsburgh. He's also from New Zealand, so Brent and Jemaine (and Murray) will be happy, I'm sure.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:52:00 PM
The Thunder need a real center, and in a couple years Adams may be able to do that. He's too raw to do too much this season though, I reckon.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:54:00 PM
I don't think the 76ers were drafting for the Hornets. The pick is a coveted 2014 pick going to Philadelphia.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 5:55:00 PM
Steven Adams - present.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:57:00 PM
I'll take your word on that Perry. I'm a little busy trying to find a laptop receipt and contemplating if I can fix a computer fan myself and trying to follow this draft to keep everything straight.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 5:59:00 PM
With the 13th pick, the Dallas Mavericks select Kelly Olynyk out of Gonzaga. He's also certainly being traded away. Also, another Canadian. Also, Andy Katz says he will be traded to the Celtics.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 6:01:00 PM
If Carter-Williams is going to New Orleans, at least he won't be the worst shooter on the team (ahem, Austin Rivers, ahem).
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:05:00 PM
With the 14th pick, the Utah Jazz select Shabazz Muhammad, but he's going to Minnesota in a trade. So, the Timberwolves decided to take the plunge on Muhammad. Interesting.
 
By: Kevin Payne
On: 6/27/2013 6:09:00 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Cody Zeller is Tyler Hansbrough and thus a waste of a pick?
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:12:00 PM
With the 15th pick, the Milwaukee Bucks the Greek kid with the difficult name. I'd look it up, but I've got a lot on my plate. His first name is Giannis. He's an international man (or kid) of mystery. All I know is everybody says he's years away from contributing anything, if he ever does.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:12:00 PM
Kevin: My guess is yes, considering Zeller is younger and more athletic.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 6:13:00 PM
It's a good thing that the Bucks don't need any players right now. They can stash him while they wait for Drew Gooden's contract to expire.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 6:15:00 PM
Zeller has some semblance of a jumper. Hansbrough has none. Plus, there aren't quite as many people who want to punch Zeller in the face.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:18:00 PM
With the 16th pick, the Boston Celtics select Lucas Nogueira. He has a huge afro. He may get traded away. He is Brazilian and thus gets compared to Nene all the time.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:24:00 PM
With the 17th pick, the Atlanta Hawks select Dennis Schroeder out of Germany. He's a point guard. Some have compared him to Rajon Rondo. Makes me wonder about Jeff Teague, mostly because Atlanta is trying to bring in a big free agent or two.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 6:26:00 PM
Teague could come to Milwaukee and reunite with his coach. He'd get as many shots as he wants.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:30:00 PM
With the 18th pick, the Atlanta Hawks select again, this time taking Shane Larkin out of Miami (FL). So, they've taken two point guards. Interesting...
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:32:00 PM
Hawks are trading Larkin to the Mavs. There you go.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:41:00 PM
With the 19th pick, the Cleveland Cavaliers take Sergey Karesev. Russian sharpshooter. Last guy in the green room. It's not like the time that one guy was left until the second round when the Knicks took him. Marcel Lampje? Was that his name?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 6:44:00 PM
I think that is correct, Chris, except for maybe Brady Quinn.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:45:00 PM
With the 20th pick, the Chicago Bulls select Tony Snell from New Mexico. Also, Shabazz Muhammad is here now. That's always odd when that happens. Anyway, maybe Snell will help Chicago's starters avoid playing a million minutes per game.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:52:00 PM
With the 21st pick, the Utah Jazz select Gorgui Dieng out of Louisville. He will go to Minnesota along with Shabazz Muhammad. Dieng is fairly old, but he'll help on defense and with rebounding. Makes some sense for Minnesota.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 6:58:00 PM
With the 22nd pick, the Brooklyn Nets, the New York Knicks of this year's draft since they are at the Barclay's Center, select Mason Plumlee out of Duke. It's not the same as when the Knicks are the local team. He's like Dieng in that he's already fairly old, but the Nets are a win now team.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:01:00 PM
I wonder what Jay-Z thinks of this pick. I know he's not a part "owner" anymore. I'm just generally curious about his opinions on things.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:01:00 PM
Jason Kidd: NBA coach is still jarring to me.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:02:00 PM
I wonder what Blue Ivy thinks about the pick.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:02:00 PM
I don't think that 22 and 23 should really be considered old.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:05:00 PM
With the 23rd pick, the Indiana Pacers select Solomon Hill out of Arizona. Chad Ford had him projects to go to the Pistons... with a late second round pick. Feels like a reach tome. Kind of like Miles Plumlee last year. Remember when they took Paul George? Those were good times.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:07:00 PM
Spike Lee: The only person more unbearable in the house than David Stern and Bill Simmons. Although Stern has made me chuckle a couple times. Stockholm Syndrome maybe?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:09:00 PM
Miles Plumlee had a great workout at the combine, but anyone who watched him play could see how limited he was. Hill has a lot of skills and could be a decent bench player for the Pacers.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:11:00 PM
With the 24th pick, the New York Knicks select Tim Hardaway Jr. out of Michigan. I am not really a fan. I saw him take too many bad shots in the (admittedly limited) time I saw him in college. I just hope they don't interview Spike Lee about this pick.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:12:00 PM
They did it, of course. Oh, ESPN. You make me want to be a better man.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:13:00 PM
There you go, Chris. We now know Spike Lee's thoughts. I agree with your assessment. Backup shooting guard, at best.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:17:00 PM
With the 25th pick, the Los Angeles Clippers select Reggie Bullock out of North Carolina. Three and D. For a win now team, he makes sense. I like this pick.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:22:00 PM
Is it just me, or does Jalen seem kind of put out at Simmons?
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:23:00 PM
With the 26th pick, the Minnesota Timberwolves select Andre Roberson. He's going to Golden State. Kevin Pelton loves him. He's an excellent rebounder. Not a bad pick.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:28:00 PM
With the 27th pick, the Denver Nuggets, the team who finally decided to hire Brian Shaw as a head coach, select Rudy Gobert out of France. He's got the longest wingspan in NBA Draft Combine history. So, he at least has that going for him.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:36:00 PM
With the 28th pick, the San Antonio Spurs select Livio Jean-Charles out of French Guiana. I don't know who he is, but the Spurs took him, so I assume he'll be great.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:43:00 PM
With the 29th pick, the Oklahoma City Thunder select Archie Goodwin from Kentucky. The pick is apparently going to Phoenix after a million trades. Also, Andre Roberson is going to the Thunder, not the Warriors now. Also, Archie Goodwin is a raw point guard who is quite young. At this point, given the usual career for a 29th overall pick, why not?
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:48:00 PM
With the first round winding down, I'd just like to say great job, Chris.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:51:00 PM
With the 30th pick, the final of the first round, the Phoenix Suns select Nemanja Nedovic out of Serbia. The pick is apparently going to the Warriors. Maybe this guy is a stash? The Warriors need cap space. Also, this is David Stern's last first round pick announcement. He's still commish until February 1. Bring on the Adam Silver Era.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 7:52:00 PM
Thanks Perry, but I'm sticking around. I'll be here through the second round. I'm unstoppable!
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 7:53:00 PM
Glad to hear it. I'll be here too. I love the second round (which started in the second half of the first round this year).
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 8:26:00 PM
The moment after I said I'd be here for the second round, my computer rebooted. But I am back.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 8:27:00 PM
It's a shame too, because it has been a really interesting second round. I'll just say I really like the Pistons getting Tony Mitchell, and I like Jamal Franklin to the Grizzlies. That feels like a steal. I also like Crabbe and Withey to whomever ends up with them.
 
By: pmissner
On: 6/27/2013 8:30:00 PM
You like all of the second round picks! I thought Franklin was going to be a first rounder.
 
By: Chris Morgan
On: 6/27/2013 10:12:00 PM
After my last comment, my computer rebooted again, and it just got going again. I just wanted to thank anybody who followed along and contributed. Here's to an exciting offseason, a great season, and a more intriguing 2014 NBA Draft!
 
By: Erickson
On: 6/27/2013 10:52:00 PM
Regarding the Pacers, they also got Lance Stephenson in the second round of the Paul George year, they got Granger deep into the first round, and they also took Kawhi Leonard 15th overall and flipped him for George Hill, who has been a great fit. I think that they're drafting acumen has been just fine, Plumlee aside.
 
By: Erickson
On: 6/27/2013 10:52:00 PM
their, not they're - ugh.
 

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