My AL Tout Team

On Saturday we got together for the American League Tout Wars auction at the Sirius XM offices in midtown. It's a standard 12-team 5x5 AL only league with one twist: One of the 5 OF spots can be used as a U spot for either a pitcher or hitter of any position. Here's my squad:

C Matt Wieters 22
C Russell Martin 11
1B Justin Morneau 7
2B Ian Kinsler 33
3B Chone Figgins 9
SS Brian Dozier 1
CI Mark Teixeira 29
MI Dustin Pedroia 31
OF Alejandro De Aza 15
OF Cody Ross 7
OF Casper Wells 1
OF Brandon Guyer 1
OF/U Justin Smoak 14
U Adam Dunn 15
P Michael Pineda 14
P Ubaldo Jimenez 12
P Clay Buchholz 11
P Matt Harrison 6
P Brian Matusz 7
P Jake Peavy 8
P Phil Humber 4
P Danny Hultzen 1
P Tyson Ross 1
R Yuniesky Betancourt
R Aaron Cunningham
R Matt Lindstrom
R Wil Myers


By: joshturin
On: 3/26/2012 7:52:00 AM
Wow. With all respect, you should get hammered. $11 for Martin, in conjunction with an understandable $22 for Wieters @ C is a little overpmt for scarcity there, in that the P you get > $33 in production is low. Morneau is an interesting gamble. Kinsler sure got expensive! Figgins is just about done, no? $9? Slight overpayment for Teixeira. Rostering both Pedroia & Kinsler for $31 = $64, wow. No profit there. Paid full price on-the-come for De Aza. Wells is on the bench; Guyer buried in AAA. How Smoak cost $14 in a league supposedly peopled by experts is amazing.

Matusz could destroy your rate stats all by himself. Peavy is toast--his shoulder weakness is permanent & his Spring speed, further confirmation. You could easily hit a HR with Matt Linstrom.

Overall a budgeting mess, IMO. Too much money @ C. Full price for both Kinsler & Pedroia is inefficient, with no profit possible & constitutes a scarce-position overpayment, since these two MI's have a power-ceiling not present @ CI & OF positions, where ideally some of the $ should have gone. John Benson used to say that one's OF is where most of one's offense is & yours is: DeAza, Cody Ross (likely supplanted by Kalish in the 2H), C Wells & B Guyer, who won't play.

I can't seriously believe you executed an auction plan. It appears you just bounced around in the market like a beachball in the OF.

By: Chris Liss
On: 3/26/2012 8:36:00 AM
I think Martin for $11 in that lineup is a good price, and I really don't see why it matters that I also got Wieters. Either he's worth that or he isn't. As for your Benson philosophy of getting offense from OF, I don't see why that matters. I have plenty of offense on this team, much from C and 2B, much from 1B. Last I checked it all counts.

My strategy was to hammer the scarce positons as there are a lot of unsettled situations in the OF in the AL, so a lot more help will be there all year. Also, it's easier to find productive OF on the wire generally than C and MI.

Felt pretty good about the execution except for DeAza who was the last good OF left, and I had unwisely filled up my whole staff and had to go the mat for him.
By: joshturin
On: 3/26/2012 9:32:00 AM
Chris, You were induced by your skilled opponents to either pay full price or overpay for Wieters, Teixeira, Pedroia & Kinsler. This happens inevitably in any auction--but it shouldn't happen 4 times. Of course its true as you say that there will be plenty of FAAB opportunities, given the Tout structure & I'm sure you're right that it will be easier to beef up in the OF than it will be at the scare C & MI positions.

Its also true that you have to gamble to win & your pitching choices are all gambles that could pay off. Matt Harrison was a prospect & for a Lefty throws hard. He's could easily pay off for you. Matusz has looked great this Spring, but its still a big gamble for him to be consistent over a full season; I'm surprised it cost $7 to roster him, given his 2011 performance.

Humber is a nice get for $4 & Tyson Ross is a great $1 buy. So given how little you invested in pitching, at least there's some serious upside there--but also considerable risk. Since you're punting SVs, you have to hit a trifecta with your starters to finish in the 1st division in pitching.

Since you, in effect paid for 3 $30 players, its a shame one of them isn't Miggy, Fielder, A-Gone or Bautista. IF you can meaningfully upgrade your OF as the year unfolds, your offense could compete, but your roster, as it is, looks pretty short on offense.

It'll be interesting to check in on this on July 1. Sorry for the out-of-the-blue critique from some random guy (me). ;-)

By: Zenguerrilla
On: 3/26/2012 10:26:00 AM
Outfield and starting pitching are the easiest places to find replacement value. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out! Plus being a liberal trade league I am sure Liss will patch the holes.

I would rather discuss Liss's grand entrance wearing a $1000 Kashmir scarf and prancing into the draft with this tune playing...
By: Chris Liss
On: 3/26/2012 10:58:00 AM
Well, I don't think I was induced. I targeted those middle infielders in the low 30s. Got Kinsler for 30 at LABR while Pedroia was 33, but was willing to pay the going rate within reason. Teixeira was not a target, but a price enforce and I think it was a good value. Could lead the AL in HR, RBI with top-10 in runs. Career BA is solid. Konerko went for 28. And nine starters most of the way should give me a leg up in wins and Ks. Key will be ERA and WHIP. Deal for saves with surplus offense/SP midseason. I think Tex/Fielder is close, btw.
By: andrewf
On: 3/26/2012 8:55:00 PM
Tyson Ross is a great $1 buy?

I dunno, Liss, I look at this team and I say, "Where'd the money go?" I don't like Wieters being your fourth-most-expensive player, and you ended up blowing a lot of cash on guys who should come cheap, like Smoak and De Aza. I know you can't feel good about $9 Figgins. There's serious bust potential with a lot of your offense, and while your pitching has a high floor, the ceiling is quite low. But you know, like all fantasy teams, there are things that could break your way. Dozier was a nice upside pick. There's a chance Pineda will take off in New York, and Matusz seems to be coming around, and Morneau seems healthy. But I feel like you could have had some better upside if you spent more economically.
By: Chris Liss
On: 3/27/2012 8:40:00 AM
Andrew - I have to say I couldn't disagree more. My pitching has a low floor but high ceiling. Matusz, Peavy, Jimenez could be monsters or busts. Total gambles. And I don't know why you think Smoak should come cheap in an AL only league... But I'm glad people don't like this team. Because you only win when you see things other people don't. If everyone agrees with you, then you obviously have no special insight into the player pool. In my view I got a ton of offense and hopefully enough SP. The offense should be fine. The SP will either make or break the squad.

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